These jeans were not what was listed (different style) and came with a rather large snip in the waistband. About a quarter of an inch. Must have been some strong scissors too because even lightweight denim folded over several times is difficult to cut. Bought them as a birthday gift and didnt open their bag and examine them until it was time to wrap them- assumed since they were new they would be in new condition. Ugh. I set them for a return and then had a rough weekend (niece in the hospital, had to watch her siblings so mom and dad could be there with her) and didn't get them to the post office on time. So I'm stuck with these garbage jeans that were not at all the style advertised and definitely weren't supposed to be defective. Won't buy from this seller again.